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I know this has been bounced around on the game thread, but I thought I'd open up debate separately.

On the play at the start of the game, the Habs' goal was disallowed because the goalie was "unable to do his job" as the RDS guys said. There was no penalty, since it was the Bruins own defensemen who caused Moen to sit on Thomas. So no penalty, but the play gets whistled down because the goalie was not able to make the play unfettered, and no goal.

On the one hand, this seems rational, since the goalie should be able to move freely on a play. But it opens up weird possibilities. If the Habs start buzzing around the Bruins' net and the D get tired and disorganized, they just have to shove their own goalie and the play gets whistled down.

Benoit Brunet said it was a stupid rule, and I tend to agree with him.

(On the Bruin goal, it was a different situation - the Bruin player (Chara I think) caused goaltender interference, and the play should have been whistled down, Chara given a penalty and the goal not counted.)

What do you experts think?

thats the way i see it. even if they didnt give chara a penalty.. u cant call it on way and igore it later one.. the refs have been brutal this year. both ways.

I agree with you guys on the brutal call on what shouldve been a goal for our boys. But what really troubles me is that on Boston's disallowed goal whent he puck went underneath the net, the ref's were going to count that goal if it went in the net between the posts. It troubles me because their player was all over Price worse then Moen (even though he was actually pushed) was on Thomas..

The Canadiens goal was disallowed because the beachball and hoola-hoop were both intentionally knocked off Tim Thomas's nose!

Ore, ore, ore!

...cripes he looks like a human mop-head playing goal - just brutal! Say what you want but Zdeno Chara will go down in history as the only defenseman to ever win the Vezina!!!

I don't recall ever seeing a goal called off because a defenseman pushed a player into his own goalie. Moen scored a goal earlier this season when he forced himself around a defenseman and got knocked down, slid into the goalie and the puck went into the net. The goal counted.

The reffing in the NHL is getting worse every season.

Well, you've seen one now.

If being unable to do your job is a good reason to not count the goals, give Price a 2 4 before each period. He won't be able to do his job and he'll automatically get a shutout each time.

Goals against Thomas 2.44 Save % 0.916
Against Price 3.32 Save % 0.896
Against Halak 2.85 Save % 0.893

That Thomas sure can't get it done like our boys!

And-o will keep saying that Thomas is a bum, and ten years from now, when he's 45 and no longer able to play, after winning 5 Vezina Trophies, And-o will say that he was spot-on all along.

No worse than how Mr. Ando thought up Thomas the walrus
with the oreo oreo oreo sound effects - one day after I heard Nick Kypreos calling Thomas a seal
with sound effects on Toronto radio the next day Thomas the walrus & his oreo made his
first appearance.......

'The Walrus' was dubbed 'The Walrus' lonnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggg before And-o (or Nick Kypreos) ever dreamt of adding the sound effects.

...and if/when 'The Walrus' EVER wins 10-games (ANY 10-games) in the NHL without the services of Zdeno Chara in front of him, And-o will post a full retraction and message an apology to the Bruins and Tim Thomas!!!

Seriously folks...Zdeno Chara won both the Vezina and the Norris all in one year!!!

Tim Thomas just happened to be the guy LAYING in the crease when it all happened.

True.

I wish people would believe that And-o, if it wasnt for chara "The Walrus" would be useless, i agree. Hell, he could make dan cloutier look good!

As a former goalie I belioeve that there are not near enough goalie interferance calls made. And I believe that this rule is not stupid (something tells me that Benoit Brunet would not call it stupid had teh call gone the other way:) is this. When I see big strong forwards falling into the crease when they have been barely touched I can see whay this rule was implemented. Forwards were taking advantage of the fact that they could be "knocked into" the goalie by the defenceman...the "oops I was pushed and accidently on purpose fell on top of your goalie" routine.

It was a bad ruling, Nil, in this regard:

Either it's goalie interference because Moen interfered with Thomas, or it's garden-variety interference because Moen was pushed into Thomas.

It has to be one or the other, but apparently referees only call interference when it's not near the crease.

By interfering with Moen, the Bruins player takes away his chance to get a rebound, screen the goalie, etc. It's a penalty, plain and simple.

I do agree that a goal shouldn't be allowed if the goalie is interfered with. But if that's because a forward was shoved into him, it should lead to a penalty for the offending team. The rules demand it.

Years back in the famous Nick Kypreos/Chris Pronger/Grant Fuhr incident where Kypreos "got pushed into Fuhr" & injuring him and forcing out of the playoffs in The St Louis/Toronto series - Pronger admitts
pushing Kypreos but it was away from the goalie but Kypreos once feeling a push from behind dove/fell into Fuhr even though the original push was away from the goalie according to Pronger..........