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 Post subject: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:09 am 
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Jagr is surprised no NHL team has signed him yet. At 44 is his time in the NHL done?
Should Habs invite him to training camp ?
He could help the power play.

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:22 pm 
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we need to get younger..all we are doing is getting older and slower..
we lost Radulov and Markov and they can not be replaced...we have no PMD
we need a #1 center,hopefully Chucky can fill that..we need to get our
young guys NHL ready but we all know that will not happen in Laval with the coach
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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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You can get him cheap, like one mil per, but will he be a better investment than having a roster spot go to a deserving prospect? I think Hudon or Scherbak might put up similar point totals, honestly.


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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:59 am 
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What KN said.

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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So...wipe away ages and faces and names here for one minute.

You can get a guy for $1m that will most probably bag 20 goals. He might get 25 or 30 goals. Plus he adds the same number of assists. He can play 1st or 2nd power play. He does not hurt you defensively. He even takes the odd face off. Oh yeah...he also has the experience and wisdom of multiple Cup wins and he's a former MVP and scoring champ.

...suppose such w signing delays the development of a young player...

What. The. Hell. Do. You. Care.???

Idea for the young guy.....score 40 and start a HOF career and you won't have that problem!

Honestly guys...this team needs goals!

And-o is as loyal as a $5 whore. This drought needs to end.

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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Jagr has supposedly been looking for a pay cheque in line with his production, which would be a few million. If his ask comes down to a million, I think lots of teams would take him on. For a rebuilding team he's a good mentor and can be traded at the deadline.

It's unlikely that Hudon, Scherbak, De La Rose, or McCarron would score more goals or points than Jagr in the same role.

There are three problems for us. Firstly, he's slow. I would love us to build around speed, so he doesn't fit. MB hasn't exactly been focused on speed recently, so I'm concerned about getting any slower. Secondly, he's not a centre. Unless Chucky is going to be moved full time to the centre position, we're not short of high-quality wingers. Thirdly, using a roster spot on him likely means exposing Hudon to waivers. There's no guarantee that Hudon will be claimed, but it's a significant risk.

Then again, I have no idea what the plan is or what kind of strategy MB and Julien are hoping to employ this year. If they think we can win without being particularly fast, then Jagr is worth it for his PP production alone. A 2nd-unit PP specialist for a million isn't bad at all. If we're planning on trading for a centre, then it's likely that our depth on the wing will be sent the other way and Jagr would be a fantastic stop-gap.


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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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What TH said.

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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What Nil D said (the second time).

I agree with TH - it's impossible to evaluate this proposition without knowing more about what MB has planned. It does seem like we should be looking to give younger guys a chance, whether our current ones or others that we bring in. As it stands now, the Habs are not a Cup contender. I'd be okay with building a solid core of young players and waiting a while longer to contend, but I can't say that MB is of the same mindset with regard to the youth movement. Time will tell, I guess...

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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Totally....as it stands now, this team is not a cup contender...therefore signing Jagr is pointless, and developing a younger player or 2 makes more sense.

I see that chunk of cap space just sitting there, and cant help thinking MB MUST have something up his sleeve...right? Please?


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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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What Desi said. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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GET A ROOM!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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Knuckles Nilan wrote:
Totally....as it stands now, this team is not a cup contender...therefore signing Jagr is pointless, and developing a younger player or 2 makes more sense.

I see that chunk of cap space just sitting there, and cant help thinking MB MUST have something up his sleeve...right? Please?


RIGHT! He has to have something in mind for it. But will the other GMs play ball with him? Or did he let Radulov and Markov walk for no good reason?

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 Post subject: Re: Should Habs sign Jagr to a PTO?
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it still boils down to if he had not played hard ball Rads and Marks would still be in Montreal..he is the main
reason both are gone..saying after Rads signed he offered the same contract, you know this is BS plus
giving up on Markov,when he said he would have done a 1 year deal,is a big mistake as you can not
replace his offense or leadership. giving Druoin a 6 year deal instead of a bridge deal and let him
prove he is worth a big contract was wrong and giving Chucky only a 3 year deal for less money then Druoin
will come back to kick him in the butt. In the last 2 years he has over termed and over paid Shaw & Azner.
they do not deserve what they got. with no major PMD it will be a shoot and chase game, still have not solved lack of
offense, #2 Dman or #1 Centre. the only known quantity is we have the best goalie in the world but he alone
can't win the cup....and with re-signing Levbreve, development will once again suck and the young players careers will be stagnated
and MB will blame the players for not developing properly when in fact they have no one to guide them
all in all will make for an interesting year....


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